Y-DNA Chromosome ID Project
Results From Second Independent Testing Company
Ancestry.com


Ancestry.com's Lab (Relative Genetics) Test Results

Comment 1: Completely new and separate cheek cell swab samples were collected by the below participants and sent to Ancestry.com/Relative Genetics. However, for bookkeeping purposes, I have used the FamilyTreeDNA.com Kit Number ID's to identify individuals in the below tables in order to allow easy identification and cross-reference of the individual results in the Ancestry.com tables on this page with the results for those same participants in the FamilyTreeDNA.com results tables displayed in the Y-DNA Project Home Page,

Comment 2. For whatever reason Ancestry.com's lab Relative Genetics initially was using letters for the results for four markers instead of numbers. Ancestry.com has since released the numeric true allele values for these DYS marker allele values. In the following tables I have shown both the letter initially reported by Ancestry.com and the true numeric allele values recently disclosed by Ancestry.com.


Ancestry.com Y-DNA DYS Markers 1-12.
DYS Locus Allele Values/DYS Marker STR "Repeats" Numbers
DYS Markers Shown With An " * " Are Markers Also Used by FamilyTreeDNA.com

 

 

 

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

9

10

11

12

 

Kit#

Participant's
Surname
Spelling

Immigrant Ancestor
per Research
and Henry Number

DYS

385a



*

DYS

385b



*

DYS

388



*

DYS

389-1



*

DYS

389-2



*

DYS

390



*

DYS

391



*

DYS

392



*

DYS

393



*

DYS

394
aka
19

*

DYS

426



*

DYS

437

Geographic Locale
Of Participant

577

Kerchner

ADAM1
11221782

B/11

G/16

12

13

29

24

11

13

13

14

12

15

Pennsylvania

816

Karchner

ADAM1
11528111

11

16

12

13

29

24

11

13

13

14

12

15

Ohio

581

Karriger

FREDK
14A25111

B/11

F/15

12

13

28

24

11

13

13

14

12

15

Michigan
Cells with dashes in them, if any, indicates we are still awaiting test results.

Ancestry.com Y-DNA DYS Markers 13-24.
DYS Locus Allele Values/DYS Marker STR "Repeats" Numbers
DYS Markers Shown With An " * " Are Markers Also Used by FamilyTreeDNA.com

 

 

 

13

14

15

16

17

18

19

20

21

22

23

24

 

Kit#

Participant's
Surname
Spelling

Immigrant Ancestor
per Research
and Henry Number

DYS

438

DYS

439

*
(2)

DYS

460

DYS

461

DYS

462

DYS

GGAAT
1B07

DYS

YCA
IIa

DYS

YCA
IIb

DYS

Y
GATA
A10

DYS

Y
GATA
A4
(2)

DYS

Y
GATA
C4

DYS

Y
GATA
H4
(3)

Geographic Locale
Of Participant

577

Kerchner

ADAM1
11221782

12

12

11

12

11

10

D/19

G/22

13

12

23

27/12

Pennsylvania

816

Karchner

ADAM1
11528111

12

12

11

12

11

10

19

22

13

12

23

27/12

Ohio

581

Karriger

FREDK
14A25111

12

12

11

12

11

10

D/19

G/22

13

12

23

27/12

Michigan

Notes:
1. Cells with dashes in them, if any, indicates we are still awaiting test results.
2. Recent revelations report that DYS439 and Y GATA A4 are same markers by different names. Therefore Ancestry.com is really only testing 23 different markers.
3. Ancestry.com is now reporting numbers at Y-GATA-H4 marker which are shifted 15 points lower than initially reported, i.e., 27 result becomes 12 under new reporting system. I don't know why they are doing this. I have decided to show both numbers for the time being until I get more clarification.
4. Results of testing by this second laboratory provided 10 more different markers for which Kit 581 matched with Kit 577. When combined with the 23/25 matches from the tests done with FamilyTreeDNA we now have a 33/35 match between Kit 581 and Kit 577. This clearly establishes a close genetic relationship between ADAM1 and FREDK. See the merged tables, link below for specific marker matches and differences.


Any male Kerchner, Kirchner, Karchner, Kaerchner, Kartchner, Karriger, Kercher, Kircher, Karcher, Kaercher, Kerkner, Kerghner, Carrickner, Carrichner, Carchner, Carachner, Churchner or other phonetic spelling variations of this German surname(s) wishing to learn more about this project and/or possibly participating in this project, please feel free to Contact Me.

Those with similar sounding (in English) and similar looking German surnames which are spelled with an 'S' in their surname such as Kershner / Kerschner / Kirshner / Kirschner are also welcome to participate in order to develop a Y-DNA haplotype and Y-DNA database for those surnames.


Merged Results Tables for Four Labs Yielding 43 Unique Markers

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Created - 4 Sep 2002
Revised - 2 Mar 2004